Wednesday, September 14, 2005

You make the play #4

Here's the set up. NL tournament, starting chips 8500, about 16 players remain. Our under the gun hero has 7000 left at a 5 handed table and finds KJo, the best hand he has seen all tourney. There is 1 active, agressive player w/ a monster stack, 1 average stack, 2 short stacks. Blinds are now 500/1000 what should our hero do, fold, limp, or raise?

Our hero infact decides to limp, he doesn't want to be pot committed w/ such a weak holding. A short stack goes all in for 3k over, the monster stack calls, and there is now 10.5K in the pot and it is 3k (1/2 of your remaining chips) to call what should our hero do now?

A few factors to consider: pot odds of 3.5 to 1 are hard to get away from, however jeopardizing 50% of your remaining chips, out of position, with an easily dominated holding isn't a recipe for tournament success! On the other hand the blinds are gonna burn away 25% of your chip stack in the next 2 hands. Think about possible hands the short stack and active, monster stack players might have.

Let me know how you would play the hand and I'll post the actual results and a detailed analysis soon.

I posted professional poker player Aaron Bartley's response in the comment section.


Blogger Donkey Bait said...

This was a response from GambleAB, that was posted on RGP. (I posed the question there as well). You may recognize GambleAB from a recent ESPN WSOP Circut final table.


One of the worst things you can do is play a hand because "it's the best
hand I've seen this orbit/half hour/hour/tournament".

KJo is a horrible hand, esp when you are first to act, esp when there are
short stacks behind you that you may be pot-committing yourself to calling
their allins.

Fold it, see if anything good happens with your blinds, and if not try to
open up when you are in good position in the next orbit.

And ask them to combine tables! Unless you are playing 6-handed tables,
theres no reason for you to have 5 people at your table when the
tournament has 16 left.

2:40 PM, September 14, 2005  
Blogger Wes said...

First of all, limping was the absolute worst play you could have made. With an M in the Dead Zone, you should push or fold, with push being the correct play with that little of chips.

But since you limped, then you should have definately called with the pot odds of 3.5-1. Remember that even if you are dominated by an AK or KQ, you are still better than a 3.5-1 dog.

2:55 PM, September 14, 2005  
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2:55 PM, September 14, 2005  
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2:56 PM, September 14, 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, depending on who the aggressive player is with the monster stack that's already called the all-in, I would call. However, if this joker was one that I think would raise into a dry pot with absolute nothing but a high card, I could make myself fold. If you don't hit, you may lose half your stack, but with the 3.5-1 odds, if u were to hit, you'd be sittin in alot better shape.

10:49 PM, September 14, 2005  

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